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Written by: Spud
4/24/2008 5:40 PM

Hey Spud,
 
I am a vet, USA 1986-1994. 
 
I heard your comment today, 23AUG08, that you said you have never heard from what you honestly thought was a member of the armed forces, or former member, with an anti-war point of view.
 
Consider yourself contacted by one today, though I am not sure if you will officially count me.  I have to admit that I am not against all war, but I sincerely believe against the current war in Iraq.  I also know of other former vets that share my opinion.
 
One thing being activity duty can do is to skew one's perception of patriotism.  I had a member of my platoon whom was in most respects a conscientious objector, but found himself overwhelmed with a sense of patriotism and duty at times.
 
One thing about being out is having a more objective point of view.  Further, I believe that eventual hindsight and history gives one more broad perspective to reflect on than being in the moment, in the "fog of war".  I don't believe we will be able to look back with overall pride on that war in 10 or 20 years.
 
William Zimelis, 82nd Airborne
 
 
 
Thanks for your e-mail William. 
 
I think people tend to look at this issue (which is very simple really) and make it unnecessarily complicated.
 
1)Democracy is the world-wide governmental trend, with most nations either practicing it or headed in that direction.
 
2)No two democracies have ever met on the battlefield.
 
3) A democratic Middle East means a peaceful Middle East. A peaceful Middle East means a vastly more peaceful world.
 
A wonderful trend has been set in motion in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the entire globe will reap the benefits in future generations.
 
All the shrill, politically motivated whining from left-wing politicians and their ill-informed acolytes really gets tiresome.
 
Thanks for listening,
 
Spud

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5 comments so far...

Re: Got a letter from a soldier who doesn’t support the mission in Iraq

Just because the world seems perfect in your little glass cubicle does not make it so. Also, by all definitions of a democracy we fail at being one. If we were a democracy we wouldn't have George W. as president since the majority of people didn't vote for him and in my opinion if he wasn't in the White House we wouldn't be in Iraq. So, instead of us spending Billions of dollars and thousands of lives in Iraq, why not use that money to have affordable health care for everyone, save Social Security and fix our education system.

You may think that Muslims are all evil and you would be far from the truth there. We have extremist radicals in our own country (ie....the KKK). My grandfather was born in Beirut and came to America back in the 1920's he graduated from UofM and spent most of his adult life as an architect designing many buildings in the Detroit area. He died about 6 years ago and was in most peoples opinions about the most caring, loving and respectful individual you would have ever met.

I love our soldiers and I appreciate thier patriotism. My brother was in the airforce for 6 years and I have many friends who are still serving to this day. I just don't like to see that dedication smeared and spit on, by one persons personal agenda.

By Josh on   4/25/2008 11:03 AM

Re: Got a letter from a soldier who doesn’t support the mission in Iraq

This is why the Army is worthless

By A MARINE on   4/28/2008 11:10 AM

Re: Got a letter from a soldier who doesn’t support the mission in Iraq

Just because this guy was a soldier 14 years ago does not make his staments worth anymore than the next guy. Ask someone who has been to both wars and you will get a total different few on if we should be in these countries or not. This "soldier" has not been to these theaters where he talks about the fog of war. First of all, im suprised he even knew what that word is and im sure he has never experinced it, because if he did he would use it in the correct manner. I am a vetran of both OIF and OEF. The reason that you do not hear about Members of the armed forces that do not support these wars is because they have been on the streets of these countries and have seen the changes that have taken place there that are for the better. They have been thanked time and time again by locals(iraqiis) for their service in liberating their country so that they to can live in a place where they too are free from burdon from there goverment/ dictator.

By A MARINE on   4/28/2008 11:10 AM

Re: Got a letter from a soldier who doesn’t support the mission in Iraq

Your three points are all well and good, but do the ends justify the means?
as for "A marine" just because you are a vet does not mean that your opinion on what OUR country does is better then mine. I disagree with the war we are in. I wish that we could get all the americans out of both countries and still have them stable. i wish there was a chance to have a demacratic iraq and Afghanistan. But because i want it to be that way or because you think that our country can do any damn thing we want. but our country is not the best in the world anymore. I think that we could be, and have the potential to be again, but we are not right now. We need to know our limits, and strive for something better. I don't want to leave iraq or afghanistan in the bad situation. We just need to do a better job. As Uncle Scrooge always said: "Work smarter not Harder."

By Thomas Verstraete on   4/29/2008 11:46 AM

Re: Got a letter from a soldier who doesn’t support the mission in Iraq

I have also served in a couple of tours threw these countries, and I am not saying one opinion is better than another, but until you have been there I don't think you have the right to talk about both sides. If you have an opinion, keep it to the side you know about and leave the ones who lived it, saw it, and really know whats going on out of it.

By U.S. service member on   5/2/2008 11:39 AM

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